The awards in verdicts against two of the world鈥檚 social media giants amount to just a fraction of the companies鈥� wealth. But Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen said these rulings against Meta and Google could signal a larger trend.
The Los Angeles verdict found Meta and YouTube were to blame for a 20-year-old woman鈥檚 depression and anxiety.
鈥淚 was frankly shocked at the magnitude of it,鈥� Haugen told Here & Now鈥檚 Robin Young. 鈥淪he got $3 million in compensatory damages and $3 million in punitive, which if you worked it out across the United States, if less than 1% of kids in the states were impacted, that would be over $1 trillion. It鈥檚 huge.鈥�
In a statement, Facebook responded: 鈥淲e respectfully disagree with the verdict and will appeal. Teen mental health is profoundly complex and cannot be linked to a single app. We will continue to defend ourselves vigorously as every case is different, and we remain confident in our record of protecting teens online.鈥�
3 questions with Frances Haugen
Do you think there will be other lawsuits?
鈥淛ust in Southern California. Remember, this is a state-level lawsuit, not a federal one. There鈥檚 1,600 plaintiffs just in Los Angeles, as we have trials warming up in Northern California. The multistate lawsuit, think like the tobacco lawsuit, is gearing up later this year. School districts are suing. It鈥檚 going to be huge.鈥�
How does Facebook change?
鈥淪o that was the core of this court case. You know, over the course of multiple weeks, a jury of everyday citizens got to listen to real Facebook research in how they ran experiments to make their product safer. This is things like turning off notifications late at night, turning off notifications in the middle of the school day, intentionally alerting users, or allowing users to reduce how much negative content they see if they want to.
鈥淭hey can do it. And that鈥檚 what the jurors heard. And the reason why they gave so much in damages was that Facebook had lots of tools in their tool chest, but they chose not to use them.鈥�
How do you get around those content immunity laws?
鈥淧art of why these lawsuits are so important is that up until now, every time anyone has complained about damages from Facebook, they鈥檝e held up this law called Section 230. What changed about this lawsuit is they said, 鈥楲et鈥檚 not look at content. Sure, you have immunity for content. Let鈥檚 look at how you designed the products,鈥� and what the judge ruled at the beginning, and why we had this case at all was that you are responsible for the decisions you make in how you build digital products, just like if you were building a car.鈥�
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